Going under the knife...

[BigWhiteFord]

So...my truck is going to the Richmond Ford stealership tomorrow. I have an outstanding recall notice (CMP Sensor Inspection/Replacement) to get taken care of. Also, on the way home from Osoyoos yesterday I was having transmission problems again. Code reader says 2nd - 3rd shift malfunction (code P0782). Code P0733 Incorrect 3rd gear ratio. Code P0732 Incorrect 2nd gear ratio. Overdrive light blinks and I get no reverse gear. Transmission operates fine with no errors when its cold or driving around town. Only buggers up if I run on the highway for an hour or more, then try to accelerate from a stop or near-stop. Then it won't shift 2nd to 3rd.

Some guys say it's the vehicle speed sensor, others the 2-3 and reverse shift solenoid or valves. I'm stumped.

On a positive note I replaced a burned out fuse for my Data-Link port, and now my SuperChips programmer works (as does my OBD2 scanner). Found out the previous owner had it set to Performance Mode. 650 lb-ft of torque baby...:lol: Set it back to the stock program for it's visit to the dealer.

[Sero]

So...my truck is going to the Richmond Ford stealership tomorrow. I have an outstanding recall notice (CMP Sensor Inspection/Replacement) to get taken care of. Also, on the way home from Osoyoos yesterday I was having transmission problems again. Code reader says 2nd - 3rd shift malfunction (code P0782). Code P0733 Incorrect 3rd gear ratio. Code P0732 Incorrect 2nd gear ratio. Overdrive light blinks and I get no reverse gear. Transmission operates fine with no errors when its cold or driving around town. Only buggers up if I run on the highway for an hour or more, then try to accelerate from a stop or near-stop. Then it won't shift 2nd to 3rd.

Some guys say it's the vehicle speed sensor, others the 2-3 and reverse shift solenoid or valves. I'm stumped.

On a positive note I replaced a burned out fuse for my Data-Link port, and now my SuperChips programmer works (as does my OBD2 scanner). Found out the previous owner had it set to Performance Mode. 650 lb-ft of torque baby...:lol: Set it back to the stock program for it's visit to the dealer.

Accelerating from a stop it shifts fine from 1 - 2 but then it stays in 2? What happens if you try to shift manually? Does it feel like it's slipping at all? Over all, it sounds like a solenoid to me...could be a valve body. If it was a speed sensoer I don't think you would get incorrect gear ratio codes. They usually means the computer is looking for a certain gear ratio but sees a different one, such as it's asking for 3rd gear but sees something else (such as second). It knows this usually by comparing the input shaft RPM and the output rpm (speed senser) and calculates what gear it's in, if it sees something else it means the transmission didn't make a shift (or made one and shouldn't have) or it's slipping. Sounds like the symptoms you have. When I worked at Volvo we had these types of problems too and we usually replaced the valve body as we found that it was more of a problem with something floating around in there and causing the solenoid to jam up, on occasion with certain codes we would just replace the tranny as there was a good chance it would come back if we did any less.

Speed sensors usually don't get inaccurate, they just stop working, which would mena you wouldn't get a incorrect ratio code and you would get a speed senser code... but I'm not a Ford tech so there might be some other variables that would cause you symptem/codes and be caused by a speed senser.

Hopefully it's not expensive...have you thought about a tranny shop? I know of a few (Benz and another one...forget the name) that are good known as good ones. Chance's are that Ford may use Benz for certain situations, most dealers do. Whatever you do don't erase your codes..valuable info there for the tech.

[TheOtherSide]

Stan's Transmissions on Kingsway has a good name... is that what you're thinking of Steve?

[Sero]

Stan's Transmissions on Kingsway has a good name... is that what you're thinking of Steve?

Sounds familiar

[JaredS]

Did your XJ tranny give you any problems at all...:headspin: Just bugging you!....hopefully it's an inexpensive repair for you and they don't keep your truck for 3 weeks (happened to a buddy of mine and they still haven't fixed it). At least it's not a dodge tranny....I hear they haven't been doing to good for there trucks.

[Sero]

Did your XJ tranny give you any problems at all...:headspin: Just bugging you!....hopefully it's an inexpensive repair for you and they don't keep your truck for 3 weeks (happened to a buddy of mine and they still haven't fixed it). At least it's not a dodge tranny....I hear they haven't been doing to good for there trucks.

As long as you keep your XJ tranny cool...they usually are flawless...

[Jeremy]

As long as you keep your XJ tranny cool...they usually are flawless...

Well its a Asin (Toyota) tranny of course its Flawless:lol:

[Sero]

Well its a Asin (Toyota) tranny of course its Flawless:lol:

I think most people assume Asin Warner is Toyota...I haven't found proof on that yet. I've heard it's the Japanese division of Borg Warner. None the less, they make good trannys. And who doesn't use them...Ford, Chev, Jeep, VW, Volvo, Toyota, Nissan, Saturn...just off the top of my head.

[JaredS]

As long as you keep your XJ tranny cool...they usually are flawless...

I sure haven't heard of many XJ owners with Tranny problems...unless they have the 5spd pugoet(sp?) tranny with the vertically split bell housing. The auto and manual are very dependable.....

[rothelb]

hello guys i don't know you all that well but i am going to have some fun with bigwhitefellonroaddead.....but dodge has some awsome deals on real deisels...lol all in some fun don't get mad...lol

[Jeremy]

hello guys i don't know you all that well but i am going to have some fun with bigwhitefellonroaddead.....but dodge has some awsome deals on real deisels...lol all in some fun don't get mad...lol

Yeah problem with those is the trannys fail at about the same rate as the oil change interval. :laughing: I'm going to say this after working for 3 years in a Diesel performance shop that the only good thing about the Dodge is the Cummins.

We had a Dodge truck (12 valve 98ish) that I took on a 4 day tourture test to CA and NV (120f in death vally). We were testing out a compound turbo system (600whp and 1300ft/lbs). It was loaded with 1000lbs of balist spare parts and tools. About the only thing we did not have problems with was the built engine. The funest part was the driver door latch that would pop the door open when you hit a bump on the hwy. Or the just warrented center console that would keep poping off. Tech a some dealer in CA "thies trucks never stay together, if the stock trim falls off all the replacements will too".

Gota say it was an Epic trip but almost falling out of the truck at 4 am in Desert doing 90MPH was not fun(read drivers door poping on bumps).

The older Fords are great, 7.3L is a awesome engine. The trannys hold up to stock and mods. Good running gear and interiors that hold together. Stay away from the 6.0L that is a awefull engine, had one as a shop test muel and it did not get anything, stock it was streaching head bolts and poping HG (3 to be precises). We worked with ARP to make L19 head studs for them the keep the lid on, that seemed to fix the problem........$1200 head studs.

The Chev Durimax is an awesome engine too (once they got the first few INj and HG probems out of the way). The Allison trannys are very very nice and strong. My dads 06 has a few mods and I would say on the box it in the upper 800ft/lbs, just 4" exhaust, box and few tricks. The drive train is not as stout as the Dodge and Ford Solid axles though. It dose drive like a dream though and rides like a car.

Not trying to say one is better than the other just give you my imput as I have had a lot of seat time behind the wheel of them all.

Jeremy:headspin:

[BigWhiteFord]

My XJ hasn't had any problems, but it's only got 142,000 km. My Ford on the other hand is now over 320,000km and is still spewing out 650 lb/ft of torque. I'd say at this mileage I'm expecting to do some maintenance and replace a few parts!

[JaredS]

My XJ hasn't had any problems, but it's only got 142,000 km. My Ford on the other hand is now over 320,000km and is still spewing out 650 lb/ft of torque. I'd say at this mileage I'm expecting to do some maintenance and replace a few parts!

Fair enough for that milage:wow:

[BigWhiteFord]

Update: Apparently my starter is pulling 730 amps, when it should be pulling about 300, so it's drawing down the batteries so much that it's clearing the memory on the ICM. Thus, the techs can't pull any codes to diagnose my transmission, as there are no codes stored. :rant:

That explains my hard-starts when it's cold though. Both batteries tested fine, and I replaced my glow-plug relay last year. New starter is $330, and $100 for labour. Transmission fluid is burnt (probably not a good sign), but they're transmission guy will look at it tomorrow morning and give me another update...

[rothelb]

you see that motor in my avitar my brother and i built this and you want to see torque and horse power....lol 509ci not sure on the torque but its lots at 26% overdrive on the twin screw blower about 2300hp at 60% od somewhere in the range of 3500.. likes to run at 14500 rpm 400 foot sand drag in 2.114 sec and in the 200 foot mud pit 1.778. i want it in my grand cherokee...lol

[BigWhiteFord]

you see that motor in my avitar my brother and i built this and you want to see torque and horse power....lol 509ci not sure on the torque but its lots at 26% overdrive on the twin screw blower about 2300hp at 60% od somewhere in the range of 3500.. likes to run at 14500 rpm 400 foot sand drag in 2.114 sec and in the 200 foot mud pit 1.778. i want it in my grand cherokee...lol

That's good hp, but I wonder if it will give you several hundred thousand kilometers of trouble-free operation? I'll keep the stock 4.0L I6 in my XJ, over a built V8. We don't really have much use for high-horsepower motors in our trail crawlers...:)

[rothelb]

never have enough. lots of reliablity just rebuild every 6 races.lol got 2nd over all last year in the cmro. and 1st in nwmra...there is no drug that beats the rush of this thing....and your so right the jeep and the suzuki are awsome for that some nice low gearing and good fuel economy and your off for a few days of fishing and playing

[TheOtherSide]

I like HP... can I have some?